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ok, so it looks like dlp is out (rainbows galore for me and wifey)
so it's 16:9 lcd type...
I'm considering the new sanyo Z1 and the panasonic pt-a100e, any thought s people?
thanks
Mikey:confused:
Are you lost?
Did you want the Hardware forum - third door on the left...
http://www.enterprise.dynip.com/forum_stuff/changethread/moving1.jpg
Depending on your budget, you could add the new Sony HS10 to your shortlist. Have you looked at the projector forum on www.avforums.com ?
I love my AE300!!:thumbs:
£1300 from pricejapan, and worth every penny! Defo worth the extra £300 over the AE100, from what I've heard. My advice is to check out the avforums (http://www.avforums.co.uk) and the avsforum (http://www.avsforum.com) for some great opinions on projectors!
I have the Panny AE100 & for the cash it is great :thumbs:
Its my first projector so i did'nt really have much to compare it to, but its avilable via Komplett (Forum Sponsors) for just 995 + delivery!
I have mine projecting onto a 240cmx140cm screen and its perfect for what i need, also got the screen from Komplett & that is also excellent for the price (240 Pounds Plus Delivery)
If you look over at the avforums as posted above there is a forum dedicated to Projectors, but everyone who i have spoke to about the Panny has the same opinon as me and loves it. Rizel
Here are some screenshots from my Sony VW11 http://www.btinternet.com/~nigelwill/
They were taken handheld with a Canon S30 digital
Originally posted by mikeyace
ok, so it looks like dlp is out (rainbows galore for me and wifey)
so it's 16:9 lcd type...
I'm considering the new sanyo Z1 and the panasonic pt-a100e, any thought s people?
thanks
Mikey:confused:
Not sure of the model, but here in Belfast my boss has opened a home cinema sales floor, which is bloody impressive....he has a 9K projector on most of the time, and its bloody excellent.
Thing is, theres a 1.5K Panasonic (I think) projector that we attached the other day, and theres only a little bit of difference between the two. The dedicated room is dark, so I don't know how it would perform in a lighter room (but I watch movies in the dark anyhow).
The more expensive one was better, but it wasn't worth six times as much. Hell, it wasn't even worth anywhere near twice as much.
If its THAT panasonic you're talking about go for it, it's bloody brilliant value, go for it.
We can get them cost price, so if I were richer....
thank you one and all for the help.:clap:
PT AE100 owner here from day one, excellent choice I made.
New HS10 owner here, can't recommend them highly enough. Depends on your budget, I've heard fantastic things about the Z1 and it was on my shortlist... Only decided on the HS10 for the additional resolution, and the fact that nobody is reporting screendoor or colour banding on it.
If you can get a PJ demoed it's worth it IMHO, it will help you decide.
The panasonic pt-ae100 is an excellent little projetor for the money. It does look better in darker conditions, but apart from that it's great. I run mine through a pro-v and it looks stunning - no sign of screen door from about 11 feet away on a 7 1/2 feet wide 16:9 screen.
Just one thing tough, there is a history of these projectors having problems - I did suffer the re led of death myself. However under warranty I phoned up the repairers who picked it up and had it back to me fixed in three working days.
The 300 model mentioned above has some advantages over the 100 however it is only available from Japan at the moment and would be expensive to courier back if it got a fault - it is due out over here soon though so mabe worth considering.
At the friendly end of the projector market I think it goes something like this:
PT-AE100 (£1000, Komplett)
Sanyo Z1 (£1300, Av-sales)
PT-AE300 (£1500, PriceJapan :nuts: )
Sony HS-10 (£2000, PriceJapan, £2200 ish UK)
Fortunately these are all good projectors for their price so it really only matters how much you want to spend! :)
I got a PT-AE300 from Japan (£1300 on the credit card, VAT to come :rolleyes: ) and all I can say is I'm gobsmacked :)
110" Widescreen, there is no going back. :)
The return to Japan isn't such a big issue, if you do get unlucky
you'd have to return it twice to whipe out the saving you've made..
-- Jon
Among cheap projectors, XGA resolution is best for beginners, as it is 1024x768 pixels. By a fortunate coincidence, an anamorphic PAL DVD is 1024x576 pixels, so it fits the projector very nicely indeed. If you don't like rainbows and sparklies (seen by many people when viewing DLP projectors) - can't say I blame you - here are some LCD ideas:
NEC projectors are in general very suitable for home cinema as they have excellent colour controls so you can achieve a very natural colour balance if you are prepared to put a couple of hours into adjusting it (for best possible colour balance and contrast, try also using an orange photographic filter on the front of your projector lens to cut down on blue and blue-green light - research on the AVS Forum under your specific projector model).
NEC VT540 is now discontinued but it is a good projector for home cinema still used by thousands of HT enthusiasts - you may find one on sale still in a projector retailer, or this guy usually has one for around £1000-1100 depending on lamp life remaining http://www.pricedless.co.uk/projectors.asp
The NEC VT650 is similar but brighter.
The NEC VT440 is similar but SVGA - SVGA is not recommended unless you are on a very tight budget.
These are all fullscreen models (4:3). The LT157 is newer and better still, but a bit pricier.
For current models, the trend is for small widescreen units - try to find Sony VPL HS-10 Cineza, Sanyo PLV-Z1 or Panasonic PT-L300U - all these are widescreen LCD projectors. http://www.projectorcentral.com/home_theater_watch.htm
It is very hard to see a projector demonstrated properly in the UK, or even at all. You may well have to research online and then buy in blind faith from the cheapest UK importer you can find, or import yourself from the US or Japan (in which case you will have to pay VAT + Customs duty before FedEx or whoever will release the parcel to you).
Ignore manufacturers specifications for contrast ratio and brightness as there is no standardised check on these, and in particular DLP statistics are often skewed by the use of a 'white segment' in the colour wheel. Concentrate on user reviews instead - those two sites I mentioned, AVS and ProjectorCentral, are all you should need as most other reviews you can find online are either cribbed from there or are aimed at the business users.
In practicall use, apart from actual resolution (XGA, WSVGA etc) the most important characteristics are:
(1) Can the projector accept your inputs (VGA is ubiquitous, individual component video input is rarer and usually via BNC connectors - or maybe you are lucky enough to have DVI)? If you need a SCART to VGA connector there are people that can build it for you for a fee - Leads Direct is one example.
(2) Can the projector display full-motion video without 'tearing' 'judder' or other artifacts - all digital projectors have a 60Hz refresh rate and some are better than others with PAL video at 50Hz - the infamous Hitachi 5500 could not do video at all without tearing.
(3) Does it have natural colours (or fine colour and gamma adjustment controls so you can get natural colours for yourself)
(4) Is it bright enough for your screen size - 100" screen diameter in a darkened room needs about 800 lumens; 120" needs at least 1000 lumens - assuming you do not have a pricey 'high gain' screen.
(5) Is the lens long-throw or short-throw (i.e. do you have to have the projector behind you or in front of you)
(6) What is the fan noise like? 41db is intrusive, 38db is acceptable, 32db is whisper quiet and desirable.
(7) What is the black level like (a high contrast is a good indicator of a good black level)?
(8) Is set-up a breeze or do you need a Physics degree?
(9) (If you are using a normal (i.e. non-progressive scan) DVD player or other video source: what is the de-interlacing quality like - Faroudja is considered to be desirable here.)
Bear in mind that high-end hi-fi magazines and specialist stores are not reliable reviewers of projectors as they will have seen only a fraction of the available models, they may well have set them up incorrectly, and they are likely to be heavily biased towards high-end manufacturers.
Ultimately, you are going to get much better results from your projector using a simple HTPC (home-theatre PC) than any DVD player even if it is made by Meridian. A HTPC is just a PC with the following four components: (a) DVD drive (b) DVD software (Sonic Cinemaster 1.5 is the best in picture quality terms) (c) decent video card, normally ATI Radeon is preferred over NVIDIA for home cinema usage (d) soundcard with SPDIF out (you need a receiver with digital input obviously). 600MHz Pentium or Athlon is sufficient speed, so you don't need to push the boat out. Most people use Windows XP SP1, although Windows Me works fine.
Recently purchased a Sanyo Z1 and have to say, it's mightily impressive, and it also comes with a lens shift function which makes projector placement a doodle.
Have a look at www.projectorcentral.com for reviews and projection calculations.
Originally posted by mikeyace
ok, so it looks like dlp is out (rainbows galore for me and wifey)
so it's 16:9 lcd type...
I'm considering the new sanyo Z1 and the panasonic pt-a100e, any thought s people?
thanks
Mikey:confused:
Hi Mikey, check out this link
http://www.enterprise.dynip.com/forum_stuff/misc/pannysony_rainfall.jpg
its a my 32" Sony and the 36"x 65"sceen above is from my Panny PT-AE100E its an excellent projector with my sweet spot 9' from the screen.
My offer to you and all is, if you live near me your most welcome to a cuppa & a movie anytime to check it out.
Cheers Steve
Originally posted by Rainfall
Hi Mikey, check out this link
http://www.enterprise.dynip.com/forum_stuff/misc/pannysony_rainfall.jpg
its a my 32" Sony and the 36"x 65"sceen above is from my Panny PT-AE100E its an excellent projector with my sweet spot 9' from the screen.
My offer to you and all is, if you live near me your most welcome to a cuppa & a movie anytime to check it out.
Cheers Steve
Christ, on a stick, I need one.
I love my panasonic 75, on a 106" screen (http://www.marc.burge.btinternet.co.uk/threadkiller/cinema/index.html) :clap: and thats my 28"w/s in the corner
Originally posted by threadkiller
I love my panasonic 75, on a 106" screen (http://www.marc.burge.btinternet.co.uk/threadkiller/cinema/index.html) :clap: and thats my 28"w/s in the corner
Is that a 2.35:1 picture stretched to 1.85:1 I see there?!!!!
Originally posted by Rusty
Is that a 2.35:1 picture stretched to 1.85:1 I see there?!!!! kinda messed the rip up :nuts: :shocker:
Seen these at similar prices:
Hitachi CP-S225WT (& free projector screen) £1600
Sanyo PLV-Z1 £1530
Panasonic AE-100 £1100
Sony VPLHS1 £1199
From this list, how would people arrange the batting order & why?
Not heard anything about the Hitachi but I'd say:
Sanyo Z1
Panasonic AE100
Sony HS1 (4:3 panel)
Originally posted by nigel_williams
Not heard anything about the Hitachi but I'd say:
Sanyo Z1
Panasonic AE100
Why the Sanyo over the Panasonic for extra £300?
Higher resolution and better contrast ratio mainly.
Also look at: http://www.avforums.com/frame.html?http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57685
Taken from www.ivojo.co.uk:
Native Wide Aspect Ratio
Video (964*544)
700 ANSI lumens
3.4kg (7.50lbs.)
Horizontal & Vertical lens shift
Theatre black mode
800:1 Contrast Ratio
PAL Progressive Compatible
Panasonic is:
Native Wide Aspect Ratio
Video (858*484)
700 ANSI lumens
2.7kg (6.00lbs.)
2000 hour lamp life (typical)
500:1 Contrast Ratio
Originally posted by Rainfall
Hi Mikey, check out this link
http://www.enterprise.dynip.com/forum_stuff/misc/pannysony_rainfall.jpg
its a my 32" Sony and the 36"x 65"sceen above is from my Panny PT-AE100E its an excellent projector with my sweet spot 9' from the screen.
My offer to you and all is, if you live near me your most welcome to a cuppa & a movie anytime to check it out.
Cheers Steve
holy mother of God... does it eat up all the bad people too?
flippin 'eck it's big (!%^&(*$ BIG)
I think this is now priroity one.
Thankyou all for some top words of wisdom.. I shall let you know how I do...
Oh - Steve - shall I bring the biscuuits, or does your very generous offer include grub?
Are all projectors PAL Progressive compatible?
I would have thought so myself...
I they are not then I might need to reconsider which PJ to get.
No, not all PJs are PAL-P compatible. For instance, I think that the AE100 supports 480p (NTSC-P) and 720p (HDTV) but not 576p(PAL-P)!
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I'm also in the market for a PJ - HS10 is the top of my shortlist at the moment.
Can be picked up from nexnix or unbeatable for around 2100-2200.
Will be demoing one tonight and will let you know
I've owned a HS10 which I imported around a month ago. I bought it from pricejapan, the service from Kaneda was excellent. It was here within 3 days of posting from Tokyo.
The HS10 is awesome. I am using a 92inch screen and driving the projector using a HTPC for dvd's. The HS10 is set up for HTPC having a dvi connector.
I intend to add a TV card and descaler for TV stuff.
Black levels are excellent, colour is spot on. I am using the cinema filter and have adjusted the blue and green levels in the service menu to compensate.
Prior to this I had, still have a Sony Wega and the picture is comparable. There is no screen door. The image is just plain good.
I can'y really say anyting bad about this pj. :notworthy
Originally posted by Underscore
No, not all PJs are PAL-P compatible. For instance, I think that the AE100 supports 480p (NTSC-P) and 720p (HDTV) but not 576p(PAL-P)!
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The AE100 is pal progressive compatible, one of the reasons I got it last week - to connect to my Limit 9900SE DVD player bought last week from Richer Sounds. In the honeymoon period but for a grand the projector seems quality.
jon
So for double the price, is the HS-10 much better than the AE-100? :norty:
Originally posted by mikeyace
holy mother of God... does it eat up all the bad people too?
flippin 'eck it's big (!%^&(*$ BIG)
I think this is now priroity one.
Thankyou all for some top words of wisdom.. I shall let you know how I do...
Oh - Steve - shall I bring the biscuuits, or does your very generous offer include grub?
I'll include the grub too:thumbs: 3 members from the AVForums have been around to view..1 even brough his dvdplayer to try it out, I don't mind helping anyone out, were all part of the same family:smokin:
cheers Steve
So for double the price, is the HS-10 much better than the AE-100?
Quite simply, the answer is yes. :thumbs:
Oh and I paid £1700 for my HS10, if you're saying the Ae100 is £1100 then it isn't double the price........ :norty:
Originally posted by mekon
Quite simply, the answer is yes. :thumbs:
Oh and I paid £1700 for my HS10, if you're saying the Ae100 is £1100 then it isn't double the price........ :norty:
I simply don't think our Sim2 is even twice as good as our AE100.....
I simply don't think our Sim2 is even twice as good as our AE100.....
Interesting but the original question was So for double the price, is the HS-10 much better than the AE-100?
The answer is yes the HS10 is much better than the AE100 and no, it isn't twice the price.
So what's your point?
Here is a review of the PT-AE300(known as the PT-L300U in the US) Info (http://www.projectorcentral.com/panasonic_pt_l300u.htm) It looks very impressive,and is a big improvement on the PT-AE100.It should be released here soon,costing around £1500,hopefully.
right - have found my nirvana - in Horsham... nice guy called Jeff runs his own AV retail from his home, 'cos he's got a muvva of a home cinema demo room, :clap: :clap:
have now seen the sanyo z1. It is - imho - way better than the panny 100, but i'm interested to hear that a panny 300 is on the way.
the z1 rocks, :clap: we watched clips from, toy story 1, ice age, armageddon, swordfish, and the sanyo was utterly impressive, and was on a screen that had to be about 8 feet wide!!!!
wonderful, now all I need is a way of fixing a screen to the ceiling - temporarily - so that it can be removed without leaving large unsightly 'eyelets' dangling down from the ceiling... any thoughts guys? I've even been thinking about a portable stand for the screen. I'll be going for a 6foot wide screen...
mikey
Originally posted by mekon
Quite simply, the answer is yes. :thumbs:
Oh and I paid £1700 for my HS10, if you're saying the Ae100 is £1100 then it isn't double the price........ :norty:
Did you import it? Or was it some Irish guy down the pub? :norty:
Trying to stop myself buying an HS10 also..
For those that imported their PJ from PJ (ah, I should've done standup :D ) hThis was an excellent post cm-9, thank you.
Hi Mr Wilby,
In order :)
1. I bought my PJ (an AE300) from PJ, using PayPal it came to £1300 on my card fo $2000 all costs to Europe. PriceJapan are fantastic there's no doubt about that :)
So the HS-10 should see a few quid change from £1700 on the card :)
2. All personal imports over £18 are subject to VAT at 17.5% (more on this later :) ).
3. It's marked as a 'Computer display device' and as such is subject to duty at 0% :)
4. DHL charge about a tenner for an admin fee.
Now the thing..
I am not aware of anyone charged VAT or an admin fee by DHL having bought from pricejapan. Apparently the processing can take several months (!). Be under no doubt tho, that you could get a nasty surprise in the post somewhere down the line.
Obviously for the HS-10 this would push the price much nearer £2000, and given you could get a UK Specced and guaranteed model for only £100 more then you've got to think very hard over your decision.
Are you a gambling man? :)
-- Jon
Yeah, that's the thing... Its about 2.2k from nexnix (or whatever they're called) and that's inc vat. Plus you can get a pixel check before they ship it out to you and that's the thing that bothers me most about ordering from PJ.
So, of all those that imported on AVForums, you've not seen or read anything about them getting stung on AE300 imports?!?
Hmm... it is tempting... just don't want to have to return one...
got it at last.... the sanyo z1 now has a nice home - wiv me:clap:
got a 7' wide screen too:clap: :clap:
and a new rel q150e sub, and a ruark dialogue one centre..... ho ho , got home and....
"um, sorry honey....... wanna a cuppa dearest?"
...she was fine, really!
now just need a spare moment to strap it all together...:D
so it's 16:9 lcd type...
I'm considering the new sanyo Z1 and the panasonic pt-a100e, any thought s people?
thanks
Mikey:confused:
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Are you lost?
Did you want the Hardware forum - third door on the left...
http://www.enterprise.dynip.com/forum_stuff/changethread/moving1.jpg
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Depending on your budget, you could add the new Sony HS10 to your shortlist. Have you looked at the projector forum on www.avforums.com ?
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I love my AE300!!:thumbs:
£1300 from pricejapan, and worth every penny! Defo worth the extra £300 over the AE100, from what I've heard. My advice is to check out the avforums (http://www.avforums.co.uk) and the avsforum (http://www.avsforum.com) for some great opinions on projectors!
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I have the Panny AE100 & for the cash it is great :thumbs:
Its my first projector so i did'nt really have much to compare it to, but its avilable via Komplett (Forum Sponsors) for just 995 + delivery!
I have mine projecting onto a 240cmx140cm screen and its perfect for what i need, also got the screen from Komplett & that is also excellent for the price (240 Pounds Plus Delivery)
If you look over at the avforums as posted above there is a forum dedicated to Projectors, but everyone who i have spoke to about the Panny has the same opinon as me and loves it. Rizel
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Here are some screenshots from my Sony VW11 http://www.btinternet.com/~nigelwill/
They were taken handheld with a Canon S30 digital
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Originally posted by mikeyace
ok, so it looks like dlp is out (rainbows galore for me and wifey)
so it's 16:9 lcd type...
I'm considering the new sanyo Z1 and the panasonic pt-a100e, any thought s people?
thanks
Mikey:confused:
Not sure of the model, but here in Belfast my boss has opened a home cinema sales floor, which is bloody impressive....he has a 9K projector on most of the time, and its bloody excellent.
Thing is, theres a 1.5K Panasonic (I think) projector that we attached the other day, and theres only a little bit of difference between the two. The dedicated room is dark, so I don't know how it would perform in a lighter room (but I watch movies in the dark anyhow).
The more expensive one was better, but it wasn't worth six times as much. Hell, it wasn't even worth anywhere near twice as much.
If its THAT panasonic you're talking about go for it, it's bloody brilliant value, go for it.
We can get them cost price, so if I were richer....
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thank you one and all for the help.:clap:
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PT AE100 owner here from day one, excellent choice I made.
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New HS10 owner here, can't recommend them highly enough. Depends on your budget, I've heard fantastic things about the Z1 and it was on my shortlist... Only decided on the HS10 for the additional resolution, and the fact that nobody is reporting screendoor or colour banding on it.
If you can get a PJ demoed it's worth it IMHO, it will help you decide.
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The panasonic pt-ae100 is an excellent little projetor for the money. It does look better in darker conditions, but apart from that it's great. I run mine through a pro-v and it looks stunning - no sign of screen door from about 11 feet away on a 7 1/2 feet wide 16:9 screen.
Just one thing tough, there is a history of these projectors having problems - I did suffer the re led of death myself. However under warranty I phoned up the repairers who picked it up and had it back to me fixed in three working days.
The 300 model mentioned above has some advantages over the 100 however it is only available from Japan at the moment and would be expensive to courier back if it got a fault - it is due out over here soon though so mabe worth considering.
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At the friendly end of the projector market I think it goes something like this:
PT-AE100 (£1000, Komplett)
Sanyo Z1 (£1300, Av-sales)
PT-AE300 (£1500, PriceJapan :nuts: )
Sony HS-10 (£2000, PriceJapan, £2200 ish UK)
Fortunately these are all good projectors for their price so it really only matters how much you want to spend! :)
I got a PT-AE300 from Japan (£1300 on the credit card, VAT to come :rolleyes: ) and all I can say is I'm gobsmacked :)
110" Widescreen, there is no going back. :)
The return to Japan isn't such a big issue, if you do get unlucky
you'd have to return it twice to whipe out the saving you've made..
-- Jon
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Among cheap projectors, XGA resolution is best for beginners, as it is 1024x768 pixels. By a fortunate coincidence, an anamorphic PAL DVD is 1024x576 pixels, so it fits the projector very nicely indeed. If you don't like rainbows and sparklies (seen by many people when viewing DLP projectors) - can't say I blame you - here are some LCD ideas:
NEC projectors are in general very suitable for home cinema as they have excellent colour controls so you can achieve a very natural colour balance if you are prepared to put a couple of hours into adjusting it (for best possible colour balance and contrast, try also using an orange photographic filter on the front of your projector lens to cut down on blue and blue-green light - research on the AVS Forum under your specific projector model).
NEC VT540 is now discontinued but it is a good projector for home cinema still used by thousands of HT enthusiasts - you may find one on sale still in a projector retailer, or this guy usually has one for around £1000-1100 depending on lamp life remaining http://www.pricedless.co.uk/projectors.asp
The NEC VT650 is similar but brighter.
The NEC VT440 is similar but SVGA - SVGA is not recommended unless you are on a very tight budget.
These are all fullscreen models (4:3). The LT157 is newer and better still, but a bit pricier.
For current models, the trend is for small widescreen units - try to find Sony VPL HS-10 Cineza, Sanyo PLV-Z1 or Panasonic PT-L300U - all these are widescreen LCD projectors. http://www.projectorcentral.com/home_theater_watch.htm
It is very hard to see a projector demonstrated properly in the UK, or even at all. You may well have to research online and then buy in blind faith from the cheapest UK importer you can find, or import yourself from the US or Japan (in which case you will have to pay VAT + Customs duty before FedEx or whoever will release the parcel to you).
Ignore manufacturers specifications for contrast ratio and brightness as there is no standardised check on these, and in particular DLP statistics are often skewed by the use of a 'white segment' in the colour wheel. Concentrate on user reviews instead - those two sites I mentioned, AVS and ProjectorCentral, are all you should need as most other reviews you can find online are either cribbed from there or are aimed at the business users.
In practicall use, apart from actual resolution (XGA, WSVGA etc) the most important characteristics are:
(1) Can the projector accept your inputs (VGA is ubiquitous, individual component video input is rarer and usually via BNC connectors - or maybe you are lucky enough to have DVI)? If you need a SCART to VGA connector there are people that can build it for you for a fee - Leads Direct is one example.
(2) Can the projector display full-motion video without 'tearing' 'judder' or other artifacts - all digital projectors have a 60Hz refresh rate and some are better than others with PAL video at 50Hz - the infamous Hitachi 5500 could not do video at all without tearing.
(3) Does it have natural colours (or fine colour and gamma adjustment controls so you can get natural colours for yourself)
(4) Is it bright enough for your screen size - 100" screen diameter in a darkened room needs about 800 lumens; 120" needs at least 1000 lumens - assuming you do not have a pricey 'high gain' screen.
(5) Is the lens long-throw or short-throw (i.e. do you have to have the projector behind you or in front of you)
(6) What is the fan noise like? 41db is intrusive, 38db is acceptable, 32db is whisper quiet and desirable.
(7) What is the black level like (a high contrast is a good indicator of a good black level)?
(8) Is set-up a breeze or do you need a Physics degree?
(9) (If you are using a normal (i.e. non-progressive scan) DVD player or other video source: what is the de-interlacing quality like - Faroudja is considered to be desirable here.)
Bear in mind that high-end hi-fi magazines and specialist stores are not reliable reviewers of projectors as they will have seen only a fraction of the available models, they may well have set them up incorrectly, and they are likely to be heavily biased towards high-end manufacturers.
Ultimately, you are going to get much better results from your projector using a simple HTPC (home-theatre PC) than any DVD player even if it is made by Meridian. A HTPC is just a PC with the following four components: (a) DVD drive (b) DVD software (Sonic Cinemaster 1.5 is the best in picture quality terms) (c) decent video card, normally ATI Radeon is preferred over NVIDIA for home cinema usage (d) soundcard with SPDIF out (you need a receiver with digital input obviously). 600MHz Pentium or Athlon is sufficient speed, so you don't need to push the boat out. Most people use Windows XP SP1, although Windows Me works fine.
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Recently purchased a Sanyo Z1 and have to say, it's mightily impressive, and it also comes with a lens shift function which makes projector placement a doodle.
Have a look at www.projectorcentral.com for reviews and projection calculations.
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Originally posted by mikeyace
ok, so it looks like dlp is out (rainbows galore for me and wifey)
so it's 16:9 lcd type...
I'm considering the new sanyo Z1 and the panasonic pt-a100e, any thought s people?
thanks
Mikey:confused:
Hi Mikey, check out this link
http://www.enterprise.dynip.com/forum_stuff/misc/pannysony_rainfall.jpg
its a my 32" Sony and the 36"x 65"sceen above is from my Panny PT-AE100E its an excellent projector with my sweet spot 9' from the screen.
My offer to you and all is, if you live near me your most welcome to a cuppa & a movie anytime to check it out.
Cheers Steve
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Originally posted by Rainfall
Hi Mikey, check out this link
http://www.enterprise.dynip.com/forum_stuff/misc/pannysony_rainfall.jpg
its a my 32" Sony and the 36"x 65"sceen above is from my Panny PT-AE100E its an excellent projector with my sweet spot 9' from the screen.
My offer to you and all is, if you live near me your most welcome to a cuppa & a movie anytime to check it out.
Cheers Steve
Christ, on a stick, I need one.
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I love my panasonic 75, on a 106" screen (http://www.marc.burge.btinternet.co.uk/threadkiller/cinema/index.html) :clap: and thats my 28"w/s in the corner
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Originally posted by threadkiller
I love my panasonic 75, on a 106" screen (http://www.marc.burge.btinternet.co.uk/threadkiller/cinema/index.html) :clap: and thats my 28"w/s in the corner
Is that a 2.35:1 picture stretched to 1.85:1 I see there?!!!!
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Originally posted by Rusty
Is that a 2.35:1 picture stretched to 1.85:1 I see there?!!!! kinda messed the rip up :nuts: :shocker:
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Seen these at similar prices:
Hitachi CP-S225WT (& free projector screen) £1600
Sanyo PLV-Z1 £1530
Panasonic AE-100 £1100
Sony VPLHS1 £1199
From this list, how would people arrange the batting order & why?
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Not heard anything about the Hitachi but I'd say:
Sanyo Z1
Panasonic AE100
Sony HS1 (4:3 panel)
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Originally posted by nigel_williams
Not heard anything about the Hitachi but I'd say:
Sanyo Z1
Panasonic AE100
Why the Sanyo over the Panasonic for extra £300?
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Higher resolution and better contrast ratio mainly.
Also look at: http://www.avforums.com/frame.html?http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57685
Taken from www.ivojo.co.uk:
Native Wide Aspect Ratio
Video (964*544)
700 ANSI lumens
3.4kg (7.50lbs.)
Horizontal & Vertical lens shift
Theatre black mode
800:1 Contrast Ratio
PAL Progressive Compatible
Panasonic is:
Native Wide Aspect Ratio
Video (858*484)
700 ANSI lumens
2.7kg (6.00lbs.)
2000 hour lamp life (typical)
500:1 Contrast Ratio
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Originally posted by Rainfall
Hi Mikey, check out this link
http://www.enterprise.dynip.com/forum_stuff/misc/pannysony_rainfall.jpg
its a my 32" Sony and the 36"x 65"sceen above is from my Panny PT-AE100E its an excellent projector with my sweet spot 9' from the screen.
My offer to you and all is, if you live near me your most welcome to a cuppa & a movie anytime to check it out.
Cheers Steve
holy mother of God... does it eat up all the bad people too?
flippin 'eck it's big (!%^&(*$ BIG)
I think this is now priroity one.
Thankyou all for some top words of wisdom.. I shall let you know how I do...
Oh - Steve - shall I bring the biscuuits, or does your very generous offer include grub?
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Are all projectors PAL Progressive compatible?
I would have thought so myself...
I they are not then I might need to reconsider which PJ to get.
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No, not all PJs are PAL-P compatible. For instance, I think that the AE100 supports 480p (NTSC-P) and 720p (HDTV) but not 576p(PAL-P)!
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I'm also in the market for a PJ - HS10 is the top of my shortlist at the moment.
Can be picked up from nexnix or unbeatable for around 2100-2200.
Will be demoing one tonight and will let you know
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I've owned a HS10 which I imported around a month ago. I bought it from pricejapan, the service from Kaneda was excellent. It was here within 3 days of posting from Tokyo.
The HS10 is awesome. I am using a 92inch screen and driving the projector using a HTPC for dvd's. The HS10 is set up for HTPC having a dvi connector.
I intend to add a TV card and descaler for TV stuff.
Black levels are excellent, colour is spot on. I am using the cinema filter and have adjusted the blue and green levels in the service menu to compensate.
Prior to this I had, still have a Sony Wega and the picture is comparable. There is no screen door. The image is just plain good.
I can'y really say anyting bad about this pj. :notworthy
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Originally posted by Underscore
No, not all PJs are PAL-P compatible. For instance, I think that the AE100 supports 480p (NTSC-P) and 720p (HDTV) but not 576p(PAL-P)!
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The AE100 is pal progressive compatible, one of the reasons I got it last week - to connect to my Limit 9900SE DVD player bought last week from Richer Sounds. In the honeymoon period but for a grand the projector seems quality.
jon
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So for double the price, is the HS-10 much better than the AE-100? :norty:
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Originally posted by mikeyace
holy mother of God... does it eat up all the bad people too?
flippin 'eck it's big (!%^&(*$ BIG)
I think this is now priroity one.
Thankyou all for some top words of wisdom.. I shall let you know how I do...
Oh - Steve - shall I bring the biscuuits, or does your very generous offer include grub?
I'll include the grub too:thumbs: 3 members from the AVForums have been around to view..1 even brough his dvdplayer to try it out, I don't mind helping anyone out, were all part of the same family:smokin:
cheers Steve
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So for double the price, is the HS-10 much better than the AE-100?
Quite simply, the answer is yes. :thumbs:
Oh and I paid £1700 for my HS10, if you're saying the Ae100 is £1100 then it isn't double the price........ :norty:
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Originally posted by mekon
Quite simply, the answer is yes. :thumbs:
Oh and I paid £1700 for my HS10, if you're saying the Ae100 is £1100 then it isn't double the price........ :norty:
I simply don't think our Sim2 is even twice as good as our AE100.....
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I simply don't think our Sim2 is even twice as good as our AE100.....
Interesting but the original question was So for double the price, is the HS-10 much better than the AE-100?
The answer is yes the HS10 is much better than the AE100 and no, it isn't twice the price.
So what's your point?
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Here is a review of the PT-AE300(known as the PT-L300U in the US) Info (http://www.projectorcentral.com/panasonic_pt_l300u.htm) It looks very impressive,and is a big improvement on the PT-AE100.It should be released here soon,costing around £1500,hopefully.
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right - have found my nirvana - in Horsham... nice guy called Jeff runs his own AV retail from his home, 'cos he's got a muvva of a home cinema demo room, :clap: :clap:
have now seen the sanyo z1. It is - imho - way better than the panny 100, but i'm interested to hear that a panny 300 is on the way.
the z1 rocks, :clap: we watched clips from, toy story 1, ice age, armageddon, swordfish, and the sanyo was utterly impressive, and was on a screen that had to be about 8 feet wide!!!!
wonderful, now all I need is a way of fixing a screen to the ceiling - temporarily - so that it can be removed without leaving large unsightly 'eyelets' dangling down from the ceiling... any thoughts guys? I've even been thinking about a portable stand for the screen. I'll be going for a 6foot wide screen...
mikey
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Originally posted by mekon
Quite simply, the answer is yes. :thumbs:
Oh and I paid £1700 for my HS10, if you're saying the Ae100 is £1100 then it isn't double the price........ :norty:
Did you import it? Or was it some Irish guy down the pub? :norty:
Trying to stop myself buying an HS10 also..
For those that imported their PJ from PJ (ah, I should've done standup :D ) hThis was an excellent post cm-9, thank you.
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Hi Mr Wilby,
In order :)
1. I bought my PJ (an AE300) from PJ, using PayPal it came to £1300 on my card fo $2000 all costs to Europe. PriceJapan are fantastic there's no doubt about that :)
So the HS-10 should see a few quid change from £1700 on the card :)
2. All personal imports over £18 are subject to VAT at 17.5% (more on this later :) ).
3. It's marked as a 'Computer display device' and as such is subject to duty at 0% :)
4. DHL charge about a tenner for an admin fee.
Now the thing..
I am not aware of anyone charged VAT or an admin fee by DHL having bought from pricejapan. Apparently the processing can take several months (!). Be under no doubt tho, that you could get a nasty surprise in the post somewhere down the line.
Obviously for the HS-10 this would push the price much nearer £2000, and given you could get a UK Specced and guaranteed model for only £100 more then you've got to think very hard over your decision.
Are you a gambling man? :)
-- Jon
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Yeah, that's the thing... Its about 2.2k from nexnix (or whatever they're called) and that's inc vat. Plus you can get a pixel check before they ship it out to you and that's the thing that bothers me most about ordering from PJ.
So, of all those that imported on AVForums, you've not seen or read anything about them getting stung on AE300 imports?!?
Hmm... it is tempting... just don't want to have to return one...
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got it at last.... the sanyo z1 now has a nice home - wiv me:clap:
got a 7' wide screen too:clap: :clap:
and a new rel q150e sub, and a ruark dialogue one centre..... ho ho , got home and....
"um, sorry honey....... wanna a cuppa dearest?"
...she was fine, really!
now just need a spare moment to strap it all together...:D
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